October 18th, 2022

ACADEMIC SENATE MEETING

MINUTES

Tuesday – 18 October 2022

ZOOM MEETING

2:00 PM

 

OPEN FLOOR PERIOD:  2:00 - 2:05 PM

John Brewer: Dept of Astronomy will have Spanish-language outreach program, let by undergrad in his research group.  Will post pdf in the chat. Oct 27/7pm.

Mike: Chair Beth Steffel is here from ASCSU will ask for approval of change in agenda.

CALL TO ORDER: 2:05 PM

1. Approval of the Agenda for 18 October 2022: introduce a new item on AB 928, a presentation from Chair Steffel. Moved by Rob Collins, seconded by Gabriela Segovia-McGahan: approved.

Chair Steffel, 3 position alternatives: support, recommend specific changes within the requirements of AB 928, or no consensus.  ICAS designed Cal-GETC in response to AB928.  Singular pathway from City Colleges (CC) to CSU/UC’s for admission.

Executive committee (ICAS) has members from City Colleges/CSU/UC senates, and is faculty driven

34 unit ceiling for the course pattern mandated by AB 928.

If approved will be applied from Fall 2025 and beyond for CC students.

If unable to reach agreement by May 2023, the pathway goes to administration for implementation instead of through faculty shared governance.

Now there is no pattern for transfers.

Singular pathway means one path from CC’s for CSU and UC.

Students would not be required to take any other lower division courses.

Now there are several paths, Ca-GETC would replace this and standardize this path for student lower division GE for transfer.

Mike Goldman: w Cal-GETC, can City Colleges certifiy that a school transferred into cannot require a student to take further lower division GE?  Response: yes

Nancy Gerber: we need to consider we have a very heterogeneous group of undergrad students coming into SFSU. 

Rob Collins: is there a mechanism for input from a dept or faculty that feels impacted?  Response:  Cal GETC will not change these GE requirements. If changes come, there will be an extensive shared government process and examination.  AB 928 does not change GE requirements.

Rick Harvey: Are there elements that could inform our discussion?  Response: specific requirements will be looked at if approved.

2. Approval of the Minutes for 4 October 2022: moved by Rick Harvey, seconded by Senator Collins.  Approved.
3. Announcements from the Floor: none
4. Reports
   1. Chair’s Report: Mike Goldman: meeting alumni hall of fame, induction of new members, brought in 7 new.  Mentioned several here.

One of our goals is to improve the University for our students.  Urge us to keep control of important decisions such as we just heard about.  

1. 2. Provost’s Report: thanks everyone for course planning, we’ll hit 75% of f2f classes.  Attendance is down throughout the CSU.  Re retention, essential to think about retention as a path towards enrollment recovery.  If we keep the students we have, we will mitigate our enrollment decline.  We can look in detail at student progress or problems and pinpoint these students in Navigator. Senator Nancy Gerber leads our trainings for faculty for Navigator. You’re welcome to reach out to her.

This University values research and will not be moving from 3/3 teaching load.

Brian Beatty: challenging to address curricular redesign towards retention. 

Provost Sueyoshi:  Faculty are involved in ways to address this, example: CEETL. 

Rick Harvey: GCOE move from 4/4?

Provost: working with Dean Grutzik to look at ways to implement 3/3

Marc Stein: important for university as a whole to address this 

1. 3. Standing Committees
      1. Academic Policies Committee: working on an online education policy and will bring next plenary.  What is online?  What is distance?  Credit for prior service policy.  Meeting w EPC for proposal for discontinuance: minor in Russian studies.
      2. Curriculum Review and Approval Committee: 2^nd reading changes to a minor in management. 
      3. Faculty Affairs Committee: next plenary in 1^st reading changes to early tenure policy.  Addressed asst-assoc and assoc-full separately. Also looking at tenure density and will introduce a policy.  We are seeing a steady decline here from recommended 75% level from CSU. See essay by Marc Stein.
      4. Strategic Issues Committee: updated budget reports as part of focus on financial transparency, and updates on administrative review policy.
      5. Student Affairs Committee: nothing today.  Looking at grading policy (see exom) graduation policy to streamline procedure for getting a degree, change from the term ‘academic probation’ to ‘academic notice’ following the success of CSU Fullerton.  Support the work of career services in additional hiring lines.  Will outreach to campus to encourage alumni mentoring. Katie Lynch working on grading policy, coordinate CR/NC deadline with 12-week mark on withdrawals, lower burden of evidence. 

 

INFORMATIONAL ITEM

There are no informational items today.

 

CONSENT ITEM

There are no consent items today.

OLD BUSINESS

5. Recommendation from the Executive Committee: Resolution on Campus Response to Intersegmental Committee of Academic Senates (ICAS) Cal-GETC Proposal, returning in first reading. 

Mike Goldman: Invite Senator Nancy Gerber to bring this to the floor and speak to it.

Nancy Gerber: Resolution has changed in the past two weeks with the Chancellors office. Chair Steffel explained a lot of this.  Deeply oppose the legislature interfering with our curriculum.

Senator Reyes: pass to Catriona Esquibel: email statement read by Mike Goldman:

As former GE director she knows GE’s well, and also as a transfer student.  30% of undergrads are transfer students, 63% will not be affected.  She supports the proposal to standardize the transfer pathway.  The courses in ethnic studies should be evaluated by ethnic studies. (SEE EMAIL AS ADDENDUM)

Mike Goldman: this wording could be included in second reading

Nancy Gerber: Perhaps Senator Collins could speak to ethnic studies at CSU level.  Senator Goldman could you speak to other college comments.

Nancy Gerber: agreement from COSE, CSS, Dean Hwu all support.

Mike Goldman: LCA concern about support

Rick Harvey: strike lines 32 and 33 to acknowledge that the campus has not come to consensus

Nancy Gerber: amendments not in order.

Marc Stein: LCA statement clarification? 

Mike Goldman: LCA is essentially undecided, please see Item 5 supplement in ILearn.

Charles Egan: LCA chairs did a qualtrics survey (results in ILearn). Suggestion is that they cannot decide, but the present recommendation is not acceptable.  Seems a quick and dirty way to get down to 34 units, need a holistic look at GE

Nancy Gerber: feedback is due next Monday in time for the statewide senate to formulate response.  ASCSU will be voting Nov 1, then CC will be voting, then UC.  Then it moves back ICAS to make a final recommendation. Will be opposed to adding back these 6 units, especially to the to COSE curriculum.

Marc Stein: agrees with holistic review.  However this issue is about easing the transfer pathway.  Reviews the 3 options.

Lori Beth Way:  we need to focus on what is in front of us right now.  There will be consultation on GE, but does not know what this will look like that will be different. 

Nancy Gerber: remember that in May that this decision will be made by administrators with no faculty consultation.  May end up with something that is tons worse.

David Olsher: our hand will be forced if we do not act and engage in the difficult discussions ahead.

Maricel Santos: clarify re LCA, those 6 units could be the survival of humanities and art.  Internships might be a way. There is also a messaging issue here and we need to be looking for a practical pathway through this issue.

Dean Clavier: agree w Prof Santos, not to disagree with the idea of a pathway, but proposed courses cut courses from LCA, losing those courses could impact these majors and programs.  Attack on the humanities and what it represents.  We need to be careful with the messaging of this.  I am not thrilled with the proposed pathways.

Dean Esquibel: as a past transfer student, I lost credits each time.  there are ways in which this impacts the college of ethnic studies and the university as a whole.  Example: area E, GE has constantly been being changed, and we are asked to revise in a way we don’t want to, and this will have a lasting impact.  We can make it work, especially as others will then make those decisions for us if we don’t.

Mai-Nhung Le:  thanks Dean Esquibel for clarifying, this is good for transfer students, and we should make a decision instead of allowing others to make it for us.

David Olsher: We as a university committed to diversity and to promoting a multi-cultural and multilingual society and campus, should reaffirm our commitment to these values, regardless of the outcome of today's vote and the ICAS proposal.

Rob Collins: For the past 4 years that AB 928 has been discussed.  This pathway would be at the core for 21^st century students and reflect the liberal studies and humanities that we want for the CSU.  By law what is put into ethnic studies curriculum has to be reviewed by ethnic studies faculty. Formation of discipline counsels and the fields we put forward and the type of graduates in the CSU are critical.  Will provide the wording of 3 resolutions that codify these principles in the chat.

Nancy Gerber: move into second reading, seconded by Mai-Nhung Le.

35 yes and 2 abstentions.  Passed.

Marc Stein: amendment, line 31-34, delete a b and c, Possible alternate language for the resolution: "That San Francisco State University takes the position of: Unable to come to a consensus, but deeply troubled by the lack of opportunity to express major concerns about the proposed pathway and the lack of opportunity to have broader consultations and conversations about GE requirements" Second by Rick Harvey.

Rick Harvey: are we at a point where we should remove the other points?

Nancy Gerber: we have to vote on Senator Stein’s amendment first.

Provost Sueyoshi:  thought that specific changes were suggested, not automatically that we couldn’t come to consensus. 

Nancy Gerber: support this inability to come to consensus. If time, would encourage specifying what we want specifically, but for now she supports Senator Stein’s wording.

Marc Stein: supports spirit of the proposal, but we are running out of time and supports wording of resolutions below.

Vote on amendment: yes 21, no 7, abstain 11.  The amendment passes.

Mike Goldman: Vote on the resolution:  yes 18, no 6, abstain 13. The resolution passes.  

 

6. Recommendation from the Executive Committee: Proposed CEL name change, in second reading. Time Certain 2:50 PM.  Moved to the floor by Senator Harvey.  Dean Hwu is at the plenary to answer questions.  POLL: 37 yes, 3 no 7 abstain.  Recommendation approved. 
7. Recommendation from the Curriculum Review and Approval Committee: To Change the Minor in Management from 21 to 15 units, in second reading. 32 yes, 0 no, 3 abstain.  Recommendation approved.

 

NEW BUSINESS

New Business items are brought by a Committee or individual to the Senate in First Reading, during which open discussion and debate may occur. We ordinarily limit each speaker to three minutes. Senators may yield their time to non-Senators if needed. The item is then returned to the Committee for further revision, to be brought back as Old Business in Second Reading.

8. Recommendation from the Executive Committee, submitted by the Academic Freedom Committee: Resolution in Solidarity with the Women and University Communities in Iran, in first reading.  Rick Harvey brought to the floor, Alaric Trousdale proposed second reading and seconded by Rick Harvey.  Yes 29, 0 no, 3 abstain. In second reading

Vote to approve: yes 28, 1 no, 4 abstain.   Recommendation approved. 

 

PRESENTATIONS

9. Presentation by Sheldon Gen, Professor, Public Affairs & Civic Eng., and Dr. Anoshua Chaudhuri, Professor/Chair of Economics, “Needs Assessment of Staff and Faculty Housing Assistance.” Time approximate 3:00 PM.

 

Presentation on needs assessment of staff and faculty housing assistance.

            Please see presentation on ILearn

          Rob Collins: ASCSU has new committee with faculty housing as one of its foci.  Can  

          this presentation be given at the ASCSU?  Sheldon Gen agreed.

Brad Erickson: Lecturer faculty are some of the most threatened by this issue.  What are you doing politically on this issue?  Sheldon Gen: focused on SFSU not on the problem statewide. There are real solutions: example: Verbhouse startup for rent to own housing being explored now.

David Hellman: would like to see a housing czar on campus.  Hard to attract talented candidates because of the housing prices.

 

Adjournment: time approximate 4:54pm

ADDENDUM: Dean Esquibel’s email re item 5

Greetings, Provost Sueyoshi, Faculty Senate Chair Michael Goldman, and Esteemed Deans:

 

I understand the SFSU Academic Senate will be voting on the proposed INTERSEGMENTAL COMMITTEE OF ACADEMIC SENATE’S (ICAS) CAL-GETC PROPOSAL

 

As former GE director, I know our current GE pattern pretty well. 

 

As a transfer student myself, I know that it takes longer to graduate the more universities you attend, and many of our transfer students have attended up to five schools before coming to SFSU. 

 

One of the advantages of the Cal-GETC plan is that Ethnic Studies will now be required of transfer students to the University of California (new graduation requirement for them!)

 

About 37% of our undergraduates are transfer students, many of whom transfer from California community colleges with thriving and long-standing ethnic studies programs like CCSF, Merritt College, Laney College, Skyline College, Woodland College, San Diego Mesa College, etc. Faculty in these programs have been active in the California Community College Ethnic Studies Faculty Council.

 

About 63% of our undergraduates begin SFSU as first-time frosh and will not be affected by this change. They will meet their Area F requirement with a class from the College of Ethnic Studies. 

 

Up until July, as Associate Dean in the College of Ethnic Studies, and nominal head of the Ethnic Studies Advising Center, I would review the transcripts of our Ethnic Studies transfer students, most of whom had taken some form of ethnic studies classes before transfer. In my experience, acknowledging credit due for the classes students have taken does not discourage students from taking additional classes at SFSU : indeed transfer students tend to take more than the minimum units required for their degrees. 

 

(NOTE: I know that that Ethnic Studies majors and minors are not the same as all transfer students! And I also know that many students never take another class in a GE area once they have fulfilled the requirement) 

 

Like my colleagues in Ethnic Studies in the California Community College and my colleagues in Ethnic Studies in the CSU, I believe that the decision as to which classes fulfill the General Education requirement in Area F Ethnic Studies should be decided by Ethnic Studies Faculty at the California Community Colleges and the California State University. 

 

The other changes to the GE pattern will include 

• the requirement for “writing intensive” for all A3 courses
• the elimination of one category of Area C , 
• the elimination of the category Area E (all current Ethnic Studies Area E courses would fit well in Area F)
• We would like more clarity as to the changes will be to made to Area A1 Oral communication (described as “defining oral communication in a manner that focusses on content [vs. skill development].) 

 

I see these changes as having minimal impact on the College of Ethnic Studies, and facilitating the path of transfer students. I support the idea that we have only one transfer curriculum for both the UC and the CSU.

 

Best,

Catriona

 

-- 

Catrióna Rueda Esquibel

(cat-tree-OH-na   REH-thah  ess-key-VEL)
(she/they/x)

Interim Dean

College of Ethnic Studies

Professor, Race & Resistance Studies Department

San Francisco State University

1600 Holloway Avenue

San Francisco, CA 94132

 

 

 

 

ATTENDANCE

 

 

 

 

 

CHAT

17:01:58 From  Gabriela Segovia-McGahan (Administrative Analyst/Specialist)  to  Everyone:

            Yesterday, I found an old, printed campus map showing the Franciscan building and old Library.

17:02:05 From  Senator Brad Erickson (he/him)  to  Everyone:

            Please rename yourself starting with the word “Senator” for voting members of the senate or with “Guest”

17:05:35 From  Senator Rick Harvey  to  Everyone:

            Welcome, Chair Steffel

17:05:38 From  Senator Brad Erickson (he/him)  to  Everyone:

            Welcome! Please rename yourself starting with the word “Senator” or “Guest”

17:07:07 From  Senator Rick Harvey  to  Everyone:

            Move we bring item 5 to the top of the agenda.

17:16:31 From  Senator Lori Beth Way  to  Everyone:

            FYI unlike most of the other CSUs, we take lower division transfer students. If they want to transfer, students only need to take written composition (A2) and quantitative reasoning (B4). Most of the other campuses require 60 units and lower division GE to be completed.

17:20:28 From  Senator Sally Pasion  to  Everyone:

            How does Cal GETC mesh with ADT??

17:21:28 From  Senator Nancy Gerber  to  Everyone:

            ADT’s still mean all lower division GE is completed and we can’t require them to take more than 60 units at SFSU.

17:27:41 From  Senator Rick Harvey  to  Everyone:

            Move to approve the minutes

17:33:07 From  Senator Lori Beth Way  to  Everyone:

            Thanks Provost, but hasn’t been me this semester. AVP Mandolfo was lead.

17:35:24 From  Senator Lori Beth Way  to  Everyone:

            Senator Nancy Gerber leads our training for faculty for Navigator. You’re welcome to reach out to her.

17:36:14 From  Senator Gabriela Segovia-McGahan (AA/S)  to  Everyone:

            Thanks, Provost Sueyoshi!  For everyone, I have been reading various articles about low enrollment in public and private universities.  Here's one: https://www.realcleareducation.com/articles/2022/07/11/college_enrollme…

17:36:51 From  Senator John Brewer (he/him/his)  to  Everyone:

            I apologize for mis-posting this earlier.  This poster is for the first Noche de Estrellas on October 27 (the previous was for the second)

17:38:16 From  Senator Roberta D'Alois she/hers  to  Everyone:

            And very generally when jobs are plentiful , college enrollments go down.

17:38:30 From  Senator Lori Beth Way  to  Everyone:

            We’ve between 30 and 35 program redesign their curriculum with Teagle grants.

17:38:43 From  Senator Lori Beth Way  to  Everyone:

            *programs

17:39:12 From  Senator Roberta D'Alois she/hers  to  Everyone:

            https://www.forbes.com/sites/michaeltnietzel/2022/05/26/new-report-the-…

17:39:26 From  Senator Brian Beatty  to  Everyone:

            Are there any plans to provide Navigate-like functions for graduate programs so we can also serve students better with data-driven outreach? EAB’s system is not setup to include graduate students, so each programmer college has to develop their own systems. Some do some don’t.

17:40:00 From  Senator Lori Beth Way  to  Everyone:

            @Brian - Yes! Graduate students are coming on to EAB very soon. We’ll keep you posted.

17:40:24 From  Senator Brian Beatty  to  Everyone:

            @Lori Beth - that is great news1

17:40:34 From  Senator Gabriela Segovia-McGahan (AA/S)  to  Everyone:

            There is also the shortage of skilled labor and the incentives offered by industry to steer people to certificate programs for "easy money" rather than incurring student debt.  https://fortune.com/2022/02/01/genz-education-revolution-could-solve-la…

17:45:39 From  Senator John Brewer (he/him/his)  to  Everyone:

            What is tenure density exactly?  Tenure *track* as a fraction of faculty?

17:45:52 From  Senator Jasper Rubin  to  Everyone:

            https://www.insidehighered.com/views/2022/04/25/declining-tenure-densit…

17:46:09 From  Michael Goldman  to  Everyone:

            Yes, Sen Brewer

17:55:03 From  Guest Alex Hwu (he/him/his)  to  Everyone:

            CPaGE

18:03:54 From  Senator belinda reyes  to  Everyone:

            this is great.  Can we get the PowerPoint?

18:04:38 From  Guest Anoshua Chaudhuri  to  Everyone:

            Yes, happy to share, will send Mirna the link to share

18:06:54 From  Mirna Vasquez  to  Everyone:

            It has been uploaded on iLearn.

18:12:08 From  Senator Wei Ming (慧明) Dariotis (she/ta) on Ramaytush Ohlone Land  to  Everyone:

            Thank you Profs. Gen and Chaudhuri.  I have been helping a new TTK faculty member who didn't get their first pay check until October and thus was very housing insecure for their first two months living in this area. They had no real choice in housing because that first paycheck could not cover 1st and last month's rent, plus a deposit. Luckily, campus housing was able to accomadate them. But I've heard this story repeated many times for our new TTK faculty moving form much less expensive housing markets, or even from other countries. Is there anyway to provide a loan on future salary  in order to provide a first paycheck in September? And maybe staff time dedicated to supporting new employees who are new to the area make that housing sdjustment?

18:15:19 From  Senator belinda reyes  to  Everyone:

            section 8 for faculty?

18:18:39 From  Senator belinda reyes  to  Everyone:

            when UC-Merced was starting, nobody wanted to move to merced, so the UC was subsidizing home loans at very low interests rates using their endowment.  I am not sure how this worked, but this was a huge incentive for me to go to US-Merced.  And it was a good incentive to stay, since you would have to pay the university the loan 6 months after leaving employment, so you needed to be sure you wanted to leave the job.

18:18:59 From  Senator Gabriela Segovia-McGahan (AA/S)  to  Everyone:

            Guests Anoshua and Sheldon, are you collaborating with other offices on campus on this project? If so, which? Thank you for this presentation.

18:20:03 From  Guest Anoshua Chaudhuri  to  Everyone:

            @Senator Gabriela, our collaborators are AHRI, UCorp and SF State Foundation

18:20:32 From  Senator John Brewer (he/him/his)  to  Everyone:

            The amount of hurdles, even when the program is available, can be prohibitive as well.  A lecturer-faculty member in our department just went through a purchase assistance program here in SF.  An understanding seller allowed them to go more than a month beyond escrow closure to answer numerous requests for additional documentation from SF.

18:20:52 From  Senator Amy Sueyoshi  to  Everyone:

            @Belinda, faculty usually make too much money for section 8 depending on the number of dependents, but most will quality for BMR rentals and ownership through HUD even if they have no dependents.

18:24:05 From  Senator Michael Scott  to  Everyone:

            One thing to consider - Rental assistance by an employer would be a taxable benefit.   I don't believe the low interest loans offered by the UC have any tax implications and may offer some advantages.

18:25:45 From  Senator Fatima Alaoui  to  Everyone:

            @Sheldon and Chaudhuri; Thank you all for your work. While waiting on the university to adopt new ways to support faculty and staff; do you know if any of these assistance programs are open to non U.S. citizens?  Most programs are restricted due to citizenship.

18:29:05 From  Senator Gabriela Segovia-McGahan (AA/S)  to  Everyone:

            FYI/Resource, CSU JEDI: https://www.calstate.edu/csu-system/faculty-staff/academic-senate/Pages…

18:31:03 From  Senator Rick Harvey  to  Everyone:

            https://www.verbhouse.com/

18:31:12 From  Senator Rick Harvey  to  Everyone:

            Rent to own housing

18:32:18 From  Guest Anoshua Chaudhuri  to  Everyone:

            @Senator Fatima, If these programs are offered by the university, hopefully citizenship will not be an issue. We will be sure to keep that dimension in mind

18:34:04 From  Senator Amy Sueyoshi  to  Everyone:

            @ Fatima, citizenship should not be an issue since the Alien Land Laws were invalidated in 1952 by the Supreme Court of California as a violation of the equal protection clause of the 14th Amendment to the United States Constitution in Sei Fujii v. California.

18:41:54 From  Senator Lori Beth Way  to  Everyone:

            The law that ultimately led to Area F requires the courses to be evaluated for Area F by Ethnic Studies faculty.

18:44:50 From  Senator Nancy Gerber  to  Everyone:

            And the college of business

18:47:44 From  Michael Goldman  to  Everyone:

            Survey is in iLearn

18:50:15 From  Senator Amy Sueyoshi  to  Everyone:

            Hi all, we've had Sutee crank some numbers and it doesn't look like it will be "incredibly destructive." I'll share the information with ExComm and let folks continue to the discussion.

18:51:31 From  Guest Charles Egan (SF State)  to  Everyone:

            It will certainly hurt foreign languages.  Now, students can take up to 6 units and earn GE credit.  If that drops to 3, there will be much less incentive for students to go on to the 102 level.

18:53:03 From  Senator Roberta D'Alois she/hers  to  Everyone:

            And my overall understanding is that if we do not make a decision or a recommendation when will be imposed upon us that we may like even less. Is that correct?

18:57:52 From  Guest Charles Egan (SF State)  to  Everyone:

            I agree totally with Lori Beth.  This is NOT just a transfer pathway.  It will remake GE on all CSU campuses.

18:58:36 From  Senator Lori Beth Way  to  Everyone:

            That is accurate and if the faculty don’t make the decision the administrators must (by law).

18:59:39 From  Senator Lori Beth Way  to  Everyone:

            @Senator Gerber - thanks for keeping up with all the twists and turns on this one!

19:00:14 From  Guest Tara Lockhart  to  Everyone:

            I agree with Charles and Lori Beth about the realities of the CO. However, how does this square with what the statewide senate chair said at the beginning of this mtg? Appreciate any insight.

19:00:57 From  Senator Nancy Gerber  to  Everyone:

            What she stated (there is no proposal for a new CSU GE pattern) is technically correct.

19:01:12 From  Senator Lori Beth Way  to  Everyone:

            The statewide president and Executive Vice Chancellor are both saying that the CSU GE won’t change without consultation.

19:01:39 From  sophie  to  Everyone:

            Can I say something as well

19:01:58 From  Senator Fatima Alaoui  to  Everyone:

            I can yield my time to dean Clavier

19:02:15 From  Senator Ellen Hines  to  Everyone:

            me too! yield to Dean Clavier

19:02:55 From  Senator Alyscia Richards (she/her)  to  Everyone:

            I yield my time to Dean Clavier if it is needed.

19:06:18 From  Senator Marc Stein  to  Everyone:

            Part of our proposed resolution says: "That SF State recognizes that the ICAS-Cal-GETC proposal applies only to transfer students arriving with an Associates Degree for Transfer (ADT) in Fall 2025 or later, and does not apply to first-time-freshmen or students entering by any other route in Fall 2025 or later."

19:06:24 From  Senator Lori Beth Way  to  Everyone:

            And, there’s so much legislative intrusion in our curriculum now that limits what we can do. AB 928 is just the latest in a long list.

19:07:08 From  Senator Marc Stein  to  Everyone:

            Our proposed resolution also says: "That SF State urges the Chancellor’s Office of the CSU to engage in timely and meaningful consultation with the CSU faculty about any changes to Title 5 graduation requirements in the CSU or to the CSU General Education pattern."

19:08:03 From  Senator Marc Stein  to  Everyone:

            And finally, our proposed resolution says: "That the SF State Academic Senate deeply opposes legislative intervention and administrative intrusion into curriculum design that should be left to subject experts and faculty members."

19:08:19 From  Senator Gabriela Segovia-McGahan (AA/S)  to  Everyone:

            That is an important distinction because it extends the students' financial burden overall.

19:13:33 From  Maricel G. Santos (she/her/hers)  to  Everyone:

            @Senator Olsher — yes on multilinguality as a university commitment - thank you

19:19:28 From  Senator Marc Stein  to  Everyone:

            Possible alternate language for the resolution: "That San Francisco State University takes the position of: Unable to come to a consensus, but deeply troubled by the lack of opportunity to express major concerns about the proposed pathway and the lack of opportunity to have broader consultations and conversations about GE requirements"

19:19:45 From  Senator David Olsher (he/him/his)  to  Everyone:

            Thank you, Senator Collins, for your ongoing work on these issues at the statewide and SF State levels.

19:21:58 From  Senator Rob Collins, ASCSU  to  Everyone:

            Ethnic Studies Competencies: https://www.calstate.edu/csu-system/faculty-staff/academic-senate/resol…

19:23:06 From  Senator Rob Collins, ASCSU  to  Everyone:

            https://www.calstate.edu/csu-system/faculty-staff/academic-senate/resol…

19:24:15 From  Senator Rob Collins, ASCSU  to  Everyone:

            Reviewer Ethnic Studies FDRG:  https://www.calstate.edu/csu-system/faculty-staff/academic-senate/resol…

19:25:42 From  Senator Rick Harvey  to  Everyone:

            That San Francisco State University takes the position of: Unable to come to a consensus, but deeply troubled by the lack of opportunity to express major concerns about the proposed pathway and the lack of opportunity to have broader consultations and conversations about GE requirements"

19:45:46 From  Senator John Brewer (he/him/his)  to  Everyone:

            You could have a poll to just count present senators.

19:47:04 From  Senator Rick Harvey  to  Everyone:

            RESOLUTION IN SOLIDARITY WITH WOMEN and UNIVERSITY COMMUNITIES IN IRAN

19:50:42 From  Lori Beth Way  to  Everyone:

            I think quorum is about how many are present

 

19:51:30 From  Senator Jackson Wilson (he, him, his)  to  Everyone:

            https://senate.sfsu.edu/senate-bylaws  3. Quorum

           

            A majority of the authorized membership must be present to constitute a quorum. A quorum must be present at all times in order for the Academic Senate to conduct business.

19:51:48 From  Senator Jackson Wilson (he, him, his)  to  Everyone:

            Senator Goldman is correct that it is about presence.